moms

for me pusrawi corporatin sdn bhd is also not bad..

u r rite julz

i deliver my 2nd daughter at PUSRAWI kota damansara and costing around rm1300..ok x?
good service..can give 4 star from 5

Govt hospitals??? Only if u dont hv any other options! Its damn cheap but the downside are: 1) Usu. no single room ward 2) Your hb cant be with u in the labour room 3)You’ll be forced to breastfeed with or without help..you’ll struggle if its your 1st time 4)Service is inferior 5) No post-natal check up appointment

on top of that, I stayed in a single room

Pusat Perubatan Universiti Malaysia.(PPUM)

Normal delivery,gave birth at 11 p.m, the next day, 3.00 pm i was discharged. Only RM550. The service also good but you must beware, the are so many practicals students (including my secondary school junior)that time. If you don’t want them, say it..
But my experience, they are not that bad, but their handling style is not as smooth as the Dr. (i.e-their ’sewing’)

pantai is quite expensive. i’m going to deliver there soon. i’ve check the price, for normal delivery it takes about 3k. but the expensive ones is c-section. minimum 6k with no complication and guess wat, is 4 bedded.

alamak.. im planning to deliver our no 7 at DSH this coming july. now i have my doubts.. hmmm.. altho our past 6kids delivered normally with no complications, sometimes u know, private hospital will purposely do a c-section cause the cost is higher!

and i would like to correct most people’s perception on govt hospitals. i too, long time ago was afraid to deliver at gov hospitals. no1,2&3 were delivered at private hospitals – 2 in kl, 1 in johor. when i was preggy with no4, my hubby was then working with selayang hospital in their IT dept. so naturally, the easiest would be to deliver there. that was year 2004. and boy was i in for a big surprise!

the service was excellent! i didnt take the 4 bedded room cause i prefer to be around people, so i took the normal ward. delivery was smooth, hubby’s are encouraged to see the whole process. the doctors & nurses were nice. food was ok. i really have nothing to complaint about. and guess what, it only cost a total of rm60 (rm20 for delivery, rm10×2 for warded for 2 days and rm20 for equipments etc (usually if no complications, u only hv to stay for a night, but my baby had blood type O-ve, so need to monitor in case of jaundice).

same goes for no 5 & 6. both at selayang hospital with no issues. i heard some people complaint bout the service, so i guess im just lucky? in my opinion, if one are nice, not demanding/fussy & being co-operative, one will get the same treatment too! coz i saw the same nurse & doc who were being nice to me, were quite harsh on some other patient, bcoz they were difficult & non co-operative (eg. refused to let the doc check the vagina after delivery, calling the nurses every now and then saying that they are going to deliver soon, where as they are not, those kind of things etc).

to me, i guess, partially it depends on fate/ luck? coz i’ve heard friends with bad experience at private hospitals too.

mommie.. im working btw,with an audit firm. contraceptive doesnt work on me. i’ve tried depoprovera, marvelon,iucd, yasmin- all to no avail. and my gynae didnot allow me to tie-up the tube coz i’m still young & too fertile, so its quite dangerous- chances of conceiving in the fallopian tube is high. so this time around, going to try mirina. hope it works we wanted 7 anyways, but didnt plan the gap to be this close. but so far so good.

to me, no matter anywhere you give birth, the pain is still the same (unless u take epidural la – i didnt take any,not even once btw). and im the type who just do it all out to get it over done with & try to tahan the pain- it really depends on your breathing & your mind.

but fyi, a scary incident happened to my neigbour who delivered in sg buloh hospital eraly this year. she was supposed to undergo a c sec. during the 1st jap of anesthetic, she didnt feel numb, then she was given another,still not numb, then another one. so the doc figured that 3 should be enuf, and went and “cut” her la. she yelled in pain cause she still not numb yet! so they gave her the gas. scary isnt it?! huhuhu..

anyways, after hearing the feedbacks on DSH, im thinking of switching to SJMC. Does anyone has Dr Delaila’s clinic no/ address? would appreciate it very much! thx!

i gave birth at SJMC, and i think the services are excellent!! foods also yummy!

An Nur hospital in Bangi… good service, experience gynea and paed, price reasonable…

Child no.1 UMSC 5 days around RM5k (vacuum + epidural + some complication thereafter + baby phototherapy due to jaundice)

Child no.1 UMSC 3 days around RM3k (normal with pethadine jab)

No complaints. Gynae’s good (The same gynae that does your ante-natal checks…). Stitches nicely (been told several times by different nurses who did post natal checks), midwives and nurses checks regularly, one room per patient, husband can stay in with wife at all times, help and assistance during labour given (when to push etc)

Nursery and paeditrician’s care very good, nurses will check upon you if they hear your newborn crying non-stop and offer to take care for you and let you rest / sleep

Food – ok lah.

Drawbacks – not much promotion on exclusive breastfeeding. mother must request and insist not too feed newborn with formula …but if you wish to bf, they’ll teach you.

Delivered my baby at SJMC last Feb. I had epidural, vacuum and single room. Total bill is RM 4k. My gynae is Dr Siti.

Pusat Rawatan Az-Zahrah Bangi. The doctor was fantastic. initially (when i was 2 months pregnant, i went to 2 other hospitals coz i had some complications) but then i went to Az-Zahrah Bangi for a 3rd opinion. The doctor was fantastic so i continued there until delivery. Great doctor, great nurses, great food. cost me only Rm1500 (biggest room). I wish i could get pregnant again so i can visit the same doctor again.

i deliver in hukm. very cheap only rm 450. i deliver at 7 am tomorrow at 1pm i already discharge. however u have to manage on your own. i have to breastfeed and taking care of your own baby. luckily my baby did not cry so i have less complication. u have t send the baby to nursery room in order to let the nurse to clean the baby. however if you go to private then they will ask you to stay longer. but the food…..very bad. mee kari for breakfast..can you imagine after giving birth eating mee kari..

UMSC drs are actually UMMC specialists/consultants doing part time after office hours. U’ll be warded in UMMC though – not sure if the new UMSC building is ready (btw, hv u seen UMMC’s maternity ward?!) The consulation cost is slightly lower than upmarket pvt hospitals.

Hi again.

I have to say that UMSC patients are warded in UMSC. The building is called ‘Menara Timur’. For deliveries, patients will be admitted to the Lily Wad in a one patient per room. The room is quite large and patients will give birth at that room itself, without being transferred to a dedicated ‘Labour Room’. I find this very comforting. There is also a sofa which can be converted into a bed. Anyway, once you have delivered, they might transfer you to a smaller room is someone else need to use the big room.

UMMC’s ‘Wad Bersalin’ is in another building.

For clinical ante and post natal checks, it is in a different building entirely, located next to the UM’s arch gate. They used to have it at the same place as UMMC. Now, with their new ‘clinic’, its much better, more parking spaces (RM3 per entry), more comfortable.

It’s a good place if one wishes to have a private hospital kind of treatment but with a teaching hospital’s facilities.

Gave birth in UMSC years 2006, 2007 and insya’allah 2008.

Salam,

Nurul, I am no expert on UMSC, just a patient who has been delivering her babies twice and insya’allah for the third time there…(so currently I’ve been going there for my periodic ante-natal checks)

Anyway, what I know, UMSC stands for University Malaya Specialist Hospital. Thus, only specialists will attend to the patients. UMMC stands for University Malaya Medical Centre.

UMSC is considered as a private hospital. For first timers, we need to register ourselves. My experience was that it was much easier to go to UMSC for the first time for registeration etc.

After we are registered, we will have the necessary check-ups and delivery with our preferred specialist.

I do not have the answer on the restrictions.

Wishing you the best of luck with your hospital search.

Hi Mum_of_3

My gynae at UMSC – Prof Siti Zawiyah
Cost of delivery at UMSC – see posting 30 May 2008
Wad Lily – 1oth Floor of Menara Timur.

Hope that helps

My 1st baby was delivered at SMC, Shah Alam with Dr. Siti. Had emergency ceaserean, cost about RM4.5K. The service was very good. My 2nd baby was delivered at SJMC, Subang Jaya with different Dr. Siti. Normal delivery, took petidin (a pain killer), afraid to take epidural cause quite expensive. It cost me around RM2.5K. Dr. Siti is a good doctor but I prefer service from SMC than SJMC. Agree with Mystical, Dr. Siti, SJMC check up usually very long Q but worth waiting, i guess.

Hi, I delivered my son in May 2007 at UMSC and have nothing but praise for the medical staff there.

Like mum_of_3, I was put in a single room and found the fact that I would be delivering there (instead of being transferred somewhere else) very comforting. My husband was allowed to be present the whole time, in fact, at one point, my in-laws came in as well (a fact I was not too happy about actually! )

My gynae, Dr Paul Tay, was very good, and kept me calm throughout. I received stitches but they were done up nicely. The nurses who attended to me were supportive and cheerful, something you really appreciate when in labour. After giving birth, I was given assistance with breastfeeding (since this was my first child). My baby was kept in the nursery a lot to give me time to rest, but whenever I was awake, they would wheel my baby in to my room so I could spend time with him.

One thing I notice about UMSC medical staff is that they try to keep the labour as natural as possible i.e. they discourage the use of epidurals, encourage vaginal delivery. I believe that their philosophy is the less unnecessary medical intervention, the better. You can still opt for epidurals etc, just that it’s not shoved in your face as an option ever so often.

Anyway, I ended up staying in UMSC for 5 days as my son had bad jaundice. Total bill for my delivery and hospital stay including UV photolight therapy for my son and paed charges came up to RM3500. I thought it was reasonable seeing as I was attended to with such care.

I’m now pregnant again with my second baby, and wish I could go to UMSC. Alas, I’ve moved house now and trying to get something closer to home.

I delivered my first child in UMSC. I was introduced by my fren commenting on the excellent services when she had her delivery.

I started visiting UMSC since i was 3 months pregnant. My monthly consultation bill was RM120. Of course there will be scanning, urine test and etc. The process of waiting for your turn was quite long as the chairs are not at comfort and it the air cond was too cold. Description counter not organise, they made mistake distrubuting medicines. They gave me steroids instead of vitamin pills. Thats scary! Luckily I was aware of it.

My gynae was Prof Eugene Leong. He was good. He took good care of me. I had C-section coz i didn’t dilate and my water bag broke. Baby was stressed so we had emergency op.

I was on full anasthetic so no pain at all. I had some fibroid and the doc helped me to remove.

I was warded in Lily ward, one bed room. My hubby stayed with me. Food was not fantastic but the nurses were ok. They did check up on and off. Sad to say they didn’t encourage neither thought me to breast-feed. They should stress on this.

My son had jaundice so he had to stay over and I was discharged. Quite sad. My bill came up to 7600 and my son’s bill for the UV light and etc was 1300. Total was RM8600

wow….looks like many are recommending the UMSC….funny most ppl I met never talked about giving birth there….always the top 5 mentioned. DSH,Sunway,pantai,SJMC..

i had my 2nd and 3rd son at Gombak Medical Centre, once called al-ilaaj. They let your hubby in for the delivery if you want to and if you came in too early but your baby isn’t going to come out soon, they’ll discharge you with no fees.
For my 3rd chld, I came in in the afternoon but only delivered my son early morning the next day. I stayed for another day and was disharged with fees of staying 2 days one night at rm1k. The room I had was a 2 patients room with attached bathroom.
GMC delivery rooms are only run by muslim women but other race are welcomed there

Hospital Bersalin Subang Permai or rather it’s actually a clinic. RM900 for normal delivery. Mine was a Ceaserean RM3.4k.

I gave birth at DSH just 6 months ago. 3D2N, induced, epidural & vacuum delivery – final bill RM3.8k. I must say I am very satisfied with their service & most importantly I get to breastfeed my baby during 1st hour! DSH really is breastfeeding friendly hospital. My obgyn is great too – Dr Neoh. My monthly consultation fee is less then RM100 (admin fee which is compulsory each visit – RM5 + doc’s consultation + ultrasound + multivitamins + iron supplement). Nurses & midwives are ok too. After comparing my final bill with a few friends, I found mine reasonable.

shiela….aiyo…what an experience…which hospital was that? My goodness…..how can U walk after delivery? Thank God u survived.

if u r around cheras, u can try to see Dr. Edmund Lai in Pantai Medical Centre cheras. he got his own clinic in tmn pertama, same row with kfc. cheras specialist maternity centre. if u cannot come to the hospital during the day, can go to the clinic during nite. but i suggest you to go there on other days than monday because if not u haf to wait for 1-2 hours. price r around rm60-80. can do lah. klinik bersalin bdr tun razak also cheap. around rm50 to see doctor n scan etc.

Now I know why one cousin of mine so proud to mention she delivered in Sunway Med, cos it’s 1 of the top 5 expensive! But what she’s proud about I dunno, considering she took epidural and C-sect.

Damansara is memang expensive, not just for obstetrics. Don’t think even good service can justify over charging.

I never fancied Assunta considering the building looks so old fashioned but the charges so high, though this hospital recently got expansion. Wouldn’t go to a hospital that is undergoing major construction works though if it was me.

Had a friend admitted to Selayang (govt)hospital for head stitches and was immediately discharged after stitching. He felt pain then on his own went to Damansara Specialist and found out some area not stitched. He stayed one night good service but was charged several thousands for such a small job.

I delivered in Dr Chan klinik Wanita in 2006 at Mentakab, Pahang.
1. Injection to lessen pain(but this doc don do epidural)
2. Got induce, I think (I delivered in 3 hours’ time)

Good treatment and nurses. I didn’t have to do anything myself like washing wound done by nurse. Other moms in the same room, separated by curtains. Hubby went into labour room also.

No vacuum. Baby got first injections of course. Total RM1000 nett. Now I heard increase to RM1500.

Anyone heard of Dr Ruby from Jalan Ipoh? One friend’s wife delivered there at RM1500 normal but only nurses no doc to deliver. Got such thing ah?

Professors seem to appear in government hospitals. Is it better if the gynae is a prof?

But are the babies delivered by docs in UMMC and are docs the ones who do the stitching up? (I heard poor stitching delays the healing of the wound).

My second child was delivered at Assunta Hospital. I wanted to deliver my baby at UMSC, but since my gynea Dr. Paul Tay moved to Assunta I just followed him there because I like him very much. He’s very gentle and professional. At first I had some doubt because Assunta is such an old hospital, but inside the facilities are not bad. The nurses were great and the food was so yummy. My bill was around RM1.3K if I’m not mistaken, it was not more than RM2K. I wouldn’t hesitate to deliver at Assunta again.

Needa, you delivered your bb at Assunta for around RM1.3K or even under RM2K? Are you sure? If so, was it because you took the package?

If you qualified for the package that means all natural la? Like no induction, water bag broke by itself, etc. (Practically means they don have to do anything) (I wonder how many qualify for package)

Hi Jess
I’m not aware of any ‘package’ deal at Assunta because I didn’t take any. I went there purely because I followed my doctor. Yes Jess it was BELOW RM2K. I got a jab to reduce pain (not sure what it’s called, but it’s not epidural), they also gave me gas and the doctor had to break my waterbag. I stayed at the hospital for one and a half day. Felt soo pampered compared to delivering my first baby at a government hospital…macam nak meroyan aje rasa beranak kat UH…

Jess: Aiyark.. jgnla mare… most moms here figure that readers will know what abbreviation means which hospital. Yes, KJMC means Kelana Jaya Medical Centre. If you cant figure out which hospital it is, try searcing in google. Im preddy sure u can find it easy peasy.

And about the delivery “packages”… Dont be too easy to believe these so-called package deals. My friend who delivered in Pantai Hospital in Cheras wanted to take one of the packages, but when she spoke to her gynae about it, the doc actually told her its cheaper to not take the package.. and after calculating the bill, it turns out the doc was right. Besides, every delivery is different, and as much as we want to stay true to the “package” or the ideal delivery we want, we might not get it. My advice is to not have high expectations on which mode of delivery u want, purely to avoid too much disappointment when u cant get what u want in the end. U should just hope for the best, a smooth delivery and a healthy baby.

Lissa: Hehe. So nice ur hubby being so protective. Mmg some nurses just lack the bedside manners that patients rightfully deserve. My sister in-law’s nurses was chit chatting away with her friends while stitching her up.. and even rested her arm on her already tired leg!! Imagine the nerve of that nurse.. huhu.

i delivered both of my girls in seremban gh, but thinking of delivering my number 3 in a private hospital this time.. teringin gak nak try.. hehehe

but i’m still looking for the right hospital which can provide me good service with the cheapest price.. can anyone share their experience delivering in other seremban private hospital? i’ve read seremban specialist review on top? what about columbia asia?

thxs to all!

Jess, I delivered 5 months ago under Dr.Paul Tay (very handsome doc , but I’m not sure whether he’s still there or not because I think he might move to Prince Court. Sana definitely won’t get Assunta price la…
I stayed at Fatimah room if I’m not mistaken because their single rooms near the nursery are full. You can try asking the hospital about the normal rate. Good luck!

hi sonia, couldn’t help seeing that you mentioned you’re under dr paul tay right now. is he with umsc still or has he moved to prince court already? and yes, i have to agree with needa, he’s really rather cute!

Hi happymoonbeam, Can I enquire whether Dr. Tay gave you an episiotomy, or was it a natural tear? Did you receive an epidural as well? I’ll be opting for a natural delivery and would like some feedback on his style. Thanks in advance!

Waa..just discovered this website and i really love this topic..I’ve delivered my 1st baby in gov hospt. In fact it’s a semi gov hospt- in Putrajaya.I had my labor pain for 36hours- just like Needa. I kind of regret going there coz of the treatment i got.. They should have offered me the epidural..but gov hospt won’t give u any..(they gave pethadine and ethonox which make me nausea) and thus I am still having the labor pain phobia..
After giving birth at 5.30pm (induced and vacuum), they took almost 20 minutes to stitch me up, and my baby was not really clean..theres a lot of dried blood on his hair. Later that night, around 11pm my baby passed his first stool…and cried. I asked for a help as I am extremely tired..36hours is really long for labor pain..and guess what..the nurse scold me for being sooooo spoiled..she asked me to do it all by myself.
Only the next day they teach me how to breastfeed my son..(very rude as if to say why am I so stupid..don’t know how to breastfeed). What do you expect? Its my first baby!!..Swear to god I am only going to private after this. What I can conclude here..Theres a lot of negative comment whenever it comes to Government Hospital. The positive one are there but very rare..

A’kum & hi Mommys out there. Just wanted to share my exp. My baby girl now dah 1years old. I bersalin dekat Klinik Umra, which is Pakar bersalin & kanak-kanak. Is located at Seksyen 13, Shah Alam (nearby stadium shah alam).
Dari first check up until bersalin kat situ. I ada asthma, that time very difficult for me. Pregnant + asthma?.. Can u imagine?..
My doc, Umra (Ummul doc perempuan, Rafi doc lelaki) + husband & wife. Both of them very friendly, as my doc, they take care of my asthma is very good. They recommend me specialist for asthma. Now my asthma dah boleh control.
Back to the story. The package start from RM999. Bersalin normal. Still can afford to pay la kan?. My friends bersalin kat klang (private) cost her about RM2500?.. Mahal sgt.. Until dia ckap kat i, boleh bersalin 2kali.. huhuhu..
So, from check up, until i masuk dalam bilik nak tunggu masa, their nurse jaga i dari malam until subuh, sampai i dlm labour room, such a sweet memory. My husband ada, my doc Ummul ada.
1 perkara yg i akan ingat sampai bila2, cara doc Ummul treat i baik sangat. Doc ummul ajar i ayat2 sebelum melahirkan anak. What a such a good doc. Dia pesan, jgn jerit, x elok. Dengan soft spoken, dia ajar i ayat2 Al-quran tu, i ikut until i lupa i dah nak bersalin?.. . My hbby paling seronok sangat coz dia ade kat sebelah i. Dia dengar i baca ayat2 yg doc ajar tu, dia senyum jer.. Then doc ummul suruh my hubby potong tali pusat baby. My hubby said this doc is very good. I dah recommend all my friends to go this clinic Umra. Now my friends pulak yg recomend kat kawan diaorang.

and.. is husband allowed to go in the labour room?

Oh so sorry Sonia, dah lama I tak check this site.

Have you delivered your baby?
If you have, CONGRATULATIONS!

If you haven’t, then I must say delivery with Paul Tay was very good. He was very cool and he asked the midwife to give me some gas after seeing me in a lot of pain. He won’t touch you unnecessarily, unlike the midwife who did VA for so many times and gave incorrect assessment of my ‘opening’.
He gave correct assessment of my delivery time after checking; he was like “it will be over in 4-5 minutes, honestly” and my baby did came out 4 minutes later.

If I have the opportunity to have him deliver my future baby, I’ll stick to him.

Eza,
That’s quite expensive considering that you didn’t take epidural and deliver your baby at government hospital.
Compared to Putrajaya, UH gave me epidural with no problem. My baby was clean and the nurse who showed me how to breastfeed was also supportive.
I can’t imagine being in your situation, sakit for 36 hours like me and then kena marah2 pulak. I don’t blame you if you feel serik to deliver again because it took me 3 years + a promise from my husband that I’ll get to deliver at a private hospital before having the next baby.

Eh sory..salah kira..adoi..fail math..total cost RM 4500…
For those yg lost..i’m sory, the package Im talking about is for Columbia Specialist Puchong..

Hi Needa,

Thanks for the info. No, I have not delivered yet! Anyway, I am still pretty calm about it because the people who delivered under Dr. Paul Tay has very good things to say about his style – very supportive and he keeps the mother calm so they don’t ‘freak out’.

I HATE doctors who talk down to mothers and treat us like IDIOTS!

It’s good he does not do routine episiontomies, because I don’t plan to have one unless it is absolutely necessary.

I’m sorry you had to endure all the VAs from the nurses They are normally so rough and unsympathetic. Thank god the doctor does not do it often!

I wanted to ask you, when Dr. Tay broke your water bag, was it PAINFUL????

Hi Sonia,

Actually, I was in so much pain that I didn’t feel anything when the doctor broke my waterbag. Make no difference at that stage.
(I’m not sure whether this info is helping you or not!!)

This was my first experience delivering baby without epidural – I was like oh my god! But again, try not to scream, take a deep breath and concentrate on pushing.. (yeah and this coming from a woman whom her husband said her eyeballs looked like they were coming out of their socket masa meneran) Hahaha! When I look at my precious baby now, I still feel glad that I pushed and pushed…

Yes I agree with Ieda.

This site is VERY good for first time mothers. If you can afford it, try to go to a private hospital because this is your first time delivering a baby and you need all the help and guidance and support that you can get.

Not to say all government hospitals are bad, but most of the time it depends on your luck. I’d really appreciate if my husband or mother is allowed to be by my side when I’m delivering, and also be allowed to have a proper rest after delivery.
Some nurses suka tunjuk pandai and marah2 us as if we are some spoilt brat, unlike doctors who are very professional and understanding.

Lili….
I’m terribly sorry…I confused myself too..Was rushing when I’m writing the post..Let me clarify..
For Columbia Specialist, there’s a delivery package starting from RM 1763 – normal vagina delivery + 4bedded room. If u take epidural u need to add extra RM 980..Thats the price i got for Jan 2008..not very sure if they have increased it recently.If u have Vacuum or forsep..the package is nulled..

That 4500 is the price in KPJ Kajang.(VIP room 2days+epidural+vacuum)RM3500, baby jaundice warded 2days RM 1000..

Hope it helps..I am extremely sorry..

went to Shah Alam yesterday; thought of making one round to see which one my wife prefers but coming out of Guthrie Expressway, naturally UMRA would be the 1st stop. 1 thing led to another, we settled at UMRA after 30 minutes consultation with the doc; had to go again a day before the op to check bp level and order any blood if needed. will write further when the time has passed. BTW, consultation fee is $65 plus some iron supplement..

p/s;
Was lucky didn’t go to DEMC. The place was really crowded with people going to the banks nearby, with some resorted to parking on the main road leading to sec. 8..

Actually, I am starting to think SJMC is not that expensive. People delivering under Dr. Siti at RM2k+.

Any opinions?

Salam ‘Idil Fitri to all Muslim bloggers… Be watchful for what needs to be looked after..

Delivered under Dr Siti from SJMC! My bill was RM2300. She is quite good la. Very long queue. But if U prefer to be seen by her….find a way & beat the system lor. I am happy with their services there. If I do have a 3rd child—-it will be SJMC.

Hi Needa,

Thanks for the info. If you did not experience pain during labour…you would be lying! So I’m glad you told the truth.Better to be honest than ‘mislead’ .

You so cute. My friend said the same thing about her labour….her eyes were about to pop out…and the whole ward could hear her scream!

Looks like I’m in good hands then, glad I found him!

I don agree to induce for doc’s/mom’s time convenience. Should only be for medical reason.

Maybe if some docs not free when around that time, he should say so first, so that the mom can get a ‘reserve’ doc?

Hi sonia, sorry my reply is so late – been bit busy these past few weeks.

I think Nadia’s already written quite a bit about Dr Tay’s style but just thought I’d add on a bit.

My tear was a natural tear, not an episiotomy. If you’re opting for natural delivery, Dr Tay’s the right gynae to go with. Like I mentioned earlier, I didn’t have an epidural, as Dr Tay encouraged me to go without, provided I felt I could stand the pain. Yes, it was painful (is childbirth ever not painful? but not unbearably so.

Hmm.

Or you could ask me again in 2 months, when I deliver my second baby. My memory may have become fuzzy over time!

Thanks Happymoonbeam!

Coincidentaly I will be delivering in about 2 months time as well. We will compare notes post delivery!

Who is your doctor now??

hi erin,

thank you so much for your informative reply..
i haven’t delivered yet.. but going to, soon! in 1 wk time!!
as this is my 1st time, i’m very nervous..
hopefully everything will go well
so, how’s Seremban Specialist?
is it KPJ near seremban 2?
did they over-charged you?
maybe i’ll go for private hospital for my 2nd one..
kenalah start savings dr skrg

ok erin, good luck to you too!

hi anyone ever experienced delivered wt dr raja juhaidah? im so afraid ,need more feedback

Columbia Asia-puchong?? i never even heard of that hospital before. WOW reading this forum has been an eye opener for me leh….never knew of so many hospitals

opps sorry 2 days 1 night package

Columbia at Puchong is quite new, in Bandar Puteri, Puchong. Bandar Puteri ( a little after IOI shopping mall) is relatively new, many semi-d houses (over RM1 mil) and many interesting shops.

I also want to know normal delivery w/o epidural how much?

will deliver my baby at Damansara Specialist Hospital (c-sec). Dr. Maziah. have no choice because my orthopedist, my physician, all are from DSH. meaning, my records are in DSH. maybe should just stick to DSH. anyone knows the rate for c-sec, single room there?

I just gave birth to my 4th last month at Pantai Bangsar. Baby was breech but thank God my gyne is very experienced in breech birth so I had a normal, breech birth. Surprisingly, charges at Pantai didn’t went up much since my firstborn in 2000, total bill including baby’s was less than RM3,500. I’m just glad my gyne didn’t ask me to go for c-sec, otherwise lagi lambat recover and not to mention mahal! *phew* Service, as with other private hosp, was of course good. Have always liked the nurses, especially at the delivery ward. All baik-baik one!

Tomoko, which gynae did you see? I thought of going to UMSC too.

Hi Ria,

where is Pusrawi Kota Damansara? so far i know tropicana medical center in kota damansara… but it;s too new tht no one had experience b4 it tht hospital. i’m searching for hospital in k. damansara as well…let’s share our info here:) thanks!

I delivered my first baby in DSH and it was about $5K for normal birth. My baby had jaundice and there was an extra $1.5K. I am very happy with the service and doctors there. I will be having my second one soon in about a month and will be going there again. Checkup are quite expensive about RM150 above to RM200+. The scanning machines are good and can even do 4D. I knew very early that my baby is a boy (unlike many of my friends who were not sure until the end or some even had suprises!). They even have a service where after your delivery, you can get the midwife to come to your house to check on your baby and you (that is when I found out my baby had jaundice) at quite a reasonable rate. Also the good thing about the hospital is that there is valet (great especially when parking is full!) – Hah!

I took epidural the first time and advocate it. You will feel so relax and best thing about it is that you won’t feel tired and exhausted by the pain so when the baby is here, you will have enough energy to focus on your baby.

By the way anyone knows of any midwife living in Kota Damansara area? I am wanting to get someone to come to my house to check on me to make sure I am actually in labour before going into the hospital. I have a 1 1/2 month old baby girl that has almost never been separated from me before so it will be a little tough during the delivery and want to make things as smooth ass possible. I want to ensure that I am actually in labor and want to go to the hospital at the right time. If you know anyone that is a midwife please pass my contact lohsherine @ yahoo dot com

Thanks

hye,
can anyone suggest to me the best gynea at Pusrawi Kota Damansara?

Plan to deliver there coz near my house.

hi gin, the address for pusrawi kota damansara is as follows:
No. 22, 4th Floor, Jln Pekaka 8/3, Kota Damansara, 47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor

Hi everybody,

tambahan, mandi keseluruhan badan masa sakit nak bersalin juga boleh mempercepatkan dan memudahkan kita bersalin. Tak kira lah masa kita dah di wad atau sebelum ke hospital. insya allah. it really works. selamat mencuba.

pengalaman bersalin di hospital kerajaan 2 tahun lepas. anak ke 5. di hospital sg buloh. sakit masa bangun bersahur. terus mandi, kemas pakaian bawa kereta terus ke hospital. sempat daftar masuk pukul 5.30 am. test kencing, bp dan segala test. rest atas katil not even 5 minit panggil nurse, cek bawah terus ke labor room (single and private room). 6.15 am beranak la kita. angkat baby tinggi2 nurse suruh kita sebut jantina bayi. hubby masuk dengan selipar khas diorang. kiranya bilik labor tu jadi wad kitoranglah 2 beranak sampai pukul 12.00 sebab bp tinggi. tapi doktor cakap normallah bp tinggi sebab sakit tu masih terasa. masa nak ke wad baby dan hubby ada dengan kita, melalui lorong khas dan tempohi 2/3 checkpoints. sampai wad, nurse terus beri panadol untuk menghindarkan sakit macam nak beranak semula tu datang. dalam wad 4 hari sebab baby kena kuning (nurse cakap kebanyakan baby yg kena kuning ni biasanya masa baru-baru keluar tu muka dia ada bintik2-macam ada nasi bawah kulit.pakar kanak-kanak dan perbidanan jenguklah kita hari-hari. kita ikut arahan saja, barulah tak kena marah!

Lagi satu saya pernah tanya misi-misi dalam wad tu, kenapa diaorang asyik marah2 bila masa baby nak keluar. Diorang cakap, kalau tak marah, nanti kitorang tak teran betul2. Diorang je yang nampak kepala baby masa tu, mana tahu boleh mati lemas ke, tali pusat tersimpul ke, kan lagi teruk? jadi serah diri ajelah, asalkan selamat dan jadikan satu pengalaman terindah and adventurous (betul ke ejaan).

mamamateen, tak apa tulis aje dalam bahasa yg sesuai & selesa la. Terima kasih cerita dan kasi tips tips. Sangat murah la ya kalau salin di hospital kerajaan…

Hi …. I’m a mother of 3 and a mother to be …. pregnant with the fourth child …. b4 I’m residing in Singapore …. n now I’m back in KL …. I’ve delivered all my 3 children in Singapore … but now I intend to deliver the 4th in KL …. I’ve no experience with any hospital in M’sia …. but I’d prefer private hospital rather than government…. I’ve seen my mother delivered b4 in HKL … scared me to death ….until now …. although the servive is cheap for 1st class … for my mom is a govt servant …. only cost her RM 24 for c-sec n 3 weeks in special ward …. my baby brother is only 6.5 month during delivery … but tats another story …. I’m really scared for I’ve heard so many stories about private n govt hosp ….. about their service …. I’ve wonderful experienced in Spore (East Shore Hosp) … so maybe I’m expecting more from KL private hospital …. I’ve asked around and the feedback I’ve receive is SJMC is providing the best service …. also SMC ….. I’m now almost 4 month pregnant … n have’nt decided which hospital to deliver becoz I’m not familiar with the system here … I’m not sure to continue with SMC becoz now I’m doing monthly check-up with SMC but the service there is not up to my expectation for its a hospital under KPJ Health Group … largest prvate hosp chain in M’sia …. I’m comparing it with SJMC (have’nt been there yet) … intended to do so to compare both hosp ….. but I really need help to know my way around …. anyone with suggestion ….. I’m really panicking about this situation …. not used to it perhaps …. I need to know the facilities of SMC an SJMC …. coz I’m looking for a clean yet pleasing condition …. thks ….. really appreciate it …..

hi all,
this mom-to-be has became a mother of a beautiful baby girl!
Alhamdulillah!!
i wanna share my experience delivering in Seremban GH.
overall, not so bad..however, u cannot expect too much la
was admitted in labour room at 2am & delivered at 6.20am.
in labour room, the midwive accompanied me all the time during the contraction and give some tips on breathing techniques..
my husband also accompanied me in labour room as it is encouraged.
the dr was quite garang, maybe what mamamateen said was true.. they want us to be strong so that we can have a successful delivery..
no manja-manja haa…
i was admitted to ward 1 day, 1 night.
the nurses were helpful, they helped me with my baby.. thought me how to feed.. how to hold.. go from bed to bed to check/guide/advise on your breastfeeding position/posture. since i’m a first timer.. maybe they understand that i don’t have any experience.
on the 1st day, i was so weak, so the nurses helped me everytime i need to go to the toilet.
they put me on a wheelchair and waited outside the toilet to monitor if i’m okay. the nurse even helped to tie up my hair(very helpful!)
They encourage exclusive breastfeeding, but if u have problem, they also provide formula.
overall i think the hospital is good, the only thing that makes me uncomfortable was the trainee doctors which will gather around you and keep interviewing.
and..yes erin, they still have that practice now.
so, erin, have you delivered yet?
how’s your experience?

congrats mom-to-be!!

it’s nice to hear that u have safely delivered your baby. me would be next year, march 2009. so, currently am nervous but yet excited to meet my lil’ one. Will keep u updated once i delivered.

i guess the services has getting better nowadays. mcm x caya je that the nurses will accompany u to the toilet, and even tlg ikatkan rambut since i didn’t get that kind of priviledged dulu.. hehe am a bit jelez .

when did you actually delivered? how much did it cost u? were u on the first class ward or 2nd or 3rd? was it induced or you were already in labor? sorry so many questions, just excited to know others experience in giving birth.

insyallah bulan depan sy akan bersalin. tgh berbelah bahagi nk g private atau kerajaan.

hai mums,

salam perkenalan

i am 2 months pregnant, still wondering either to go to pusrawi or kbmc.
Could sumone pls advise me, thank you.

mummycute:

I tak sure pulak samada husband boleh masuk kat labour room. I tak ingat nak tanya sebab masuk emergency terus bersalin. mummycute stay kat mana. Normally hosp kerajaan ni untuk yang tinggal dalam daerahnya melainkan kalau masuk secara emergency.

hi all..
my experience for first time(since baru 1 anak je..hehehehe) at putrajaya hsptl.My experience was gud(indeed what u expect from a gov hsptl..my comp & hubby comp xcover maternity cost).Arrived at hsptl around 11pm. Get warded that night. Around 3.30am next morning admit to labour room.My hubby accompany me start from 4am until I bersalin(10.15am). The nurse also quite friendly and helpful, teached me breathing technique…and calm me down. So i guess for gov hsptl, this is consider gud service. Now my princess already 5++month.
Just wonder for any mum staying around equine park/puncak jalil/dengkil..do u know any muslim babysitter(pengasuh)that I can send my princess to. Now she staying with my mum in north. So every weekend will travelling back to see her.Pretty tired & I want to spend more time with her during this stage.Please if anybody can recommend for me…that would really appreciate…email me (dd.razak@yahoo.com) or sms me (0133625206)..thx

Oops..I meant ‘can anyone share their expriences of giving birth under Dr Liew’s care’ LOL…blurr. Sorry fr the typo;)

hi all,

i gave birth to the first 4 of my children at SMC and the last one at government hospital….. i prefer SMC rather than govern. hosp….the service are far more better….

Its important for you guys to take up a medical insurance that can cover the cost of maternity.

I’m really surprise on reading some of you kena kumpul duit dulu untuk bersalin. Anything can happen during labour, be it pain killers, epidural, c-sec, etc. The cost may rise even you have a done package.

A package is only good as the fine print. Be sure to read everything and anything about your maternity package.

So again — Ambik insurance wahai ibu2 sekalian.

lizazmi,

u can type http://www.umra.com.my and try to look for the address. The clinic situated nearby the Shah ALam stadium. This post is very informative as my wife is going to give first birth this coming april. I think I’m going to UMRA as the place is quite peaceful and the Dr is very friendly. My wife had a detailed scanning (3d scan) and only cost about RM90 which is reasonable. Good luck lizazmi. hope u can find the clinic

p:s/ hope u gals don’t mind I’m reading this posts for pregnant ladies.

Dear MFR,

Could you recommend us any insurance company which can cover maternity costs. So far so good I have not come across anyone of them covers this costs. But I came across few years ago that they do pay if you deliver after 1 year the policy was taken. Itu pun RM500.00 sahaja. It is a very very good news for us if there is one.

hi all … mommies …. so far I’ve been looking and asking around for hospitals …. I’ve been to SMC and SJMC for check-up … n really am liking the services provided by SJMC …. compared to SMC …. actually if we compared the price it is not far apart but the services given is very satisfying …. worth every penny …. SMC and other govt hosp is ok … but only if they can provide better facilities n services such the restroom … canteen … n shops and most important cleanliness ….. don’t you all agree that the cleanliness of the toilet n cafeteria is important? If they can improve all this their services will be even greater ….

HOW FAST YOUR STITCHES HEAL depend on the doc’s skill. Should take no more than 1 week.

But if your doc do internal stitching, you’ll hardly feel it. You can sit upright right after delivery. But not all docs do this stitching. Ask your doc.

Hi everyone,
Great site and very useful. My due date is in Aug and this is my first baby. A friend recommend Pusat Perubatan Naluri in wangsa maju. HE said the service there very good.

anyone have any news to contribute about this private hospital. Thanks

well this is my first pregnancy..and i stay in putrajaya.. i need some feed back about An-nur specialist hospital Bangi and Azzahrah hospital Bangi.. which one should be considered ?? n how much would it cost for a normal delivery?? Thanx..

Jus found this site. Very informative & good sharing.

Am pregnant with my 4th. 1st was delivered at Selayang Hosp – I was staying in Rawang then & the hosp was new at that time. 2nd & 3rd was at Naluri Wangsa Maju with Dr Kay. No regrets – delivery, charges & service are tops.

Am now staying in Bukit Subang, Shah Alam, so looking for somewhere near.

Some Qs for anyone who can answer:

1) Pusrawi Kota Damansara – what are the charges per visit, delivery charges & recommended gynae (preferably lady)?

2) DEMC Sec.9 Shah Alam – what are the charges per visit, delivery charges / packages & recommended gynae (preferably lady)?

Thanks…

Hi All,

It’s great to discover such topic.

I’m planning for pregnancy this year. So were checking through the right place. I were thinking of private hospital but not sure which one.

And i’m from johor. I don’t see that much info for me in johor but let’s hope.

Most probaby I’ll opt for Hosp Sultan Ismail. It’s a semi goverment hospital and it’s just opposite my house. I heard the service and facilities there are very good. I’m not experience any myself.

So probably next week I’m going for my pre-pregnancy check up. Just to see the gynae and how they treat us there.

anyone had birth experience at Naluri wangsa maju? how much is the charge for normal & c-sec, are the service good? Please share since i’m thinking of going there for my delivery. I’m 3 months pregnant now. Thanks.

Hi.. Pearly

Last year September i delivered my bb in Columbia Asia Puchong. Cost me about RM 3128 normal delivered, 2day 1 night (single room )and my bb stay 1 more day coz jaundice. no epidura (induce + forcep )My gynae is Doc Ng

lizazmi

i had a -ve experience too at umra 2 yrs ago. dr said my sac wuz empty. went for 2nd opinion at naluri, once scanner touched the tummy a clear image of fetus was shown!

now prgnt again, going to try pusrawi kota d’sara this evening. hopefully, all ok.

Lizazmi,

Can you describe further on your package with QHC? which dr are you seeing?

Thanks.

June

hi labyrinth….

You had your first child in pusrawi kota damansara and changed to other places for your latter…

May i know why?
is it that u have problems with pusrawi kd? i am planning to deliver there…

TQ

hi mama2009,

my 1st impression of pusrawi kota d’sara was quite okay actually. i’m seeing dr zarina, very motherly-like. my hubby likes the place as it has ample parking and flexible hrs till 10pm for monthly check-ups. delivery rates are not too bad either.

i have not checked their rooms & labour room, though. but, we’ve decided to deliver there, anyway.

take care.

I delivered my first bb in Sunway in 2007. I had emergency c-section and premature bb. Cost RM 7500. Stayed for 5 days and bb got jaundice. My doctor is Jason Lim. He is good and attentive and even scold the nurse for not cleaning up me properly. The nurse there, got a few got attitude problem but the head of nurse is good.

Hi..I’m going deliver my 1st baby on sep’09..so i need an opinion gave birth at ppum or pusrawi-kota d’sara which 1 will u select according the services n cost? b’coz now days our economic is very down..so i realy need u all opinion/suggestion

Hi all,

Its great to find this site.. well… my experience at DEMC was great for both of my previous delivery.. My gynae is Dr Zamri and he was recommended by the staffs of being very good at “jahit-menjahit” ni.. For my first baby with him, i did’nt feel almost anything (without epidural..!, during my pantang also is like nothing happen, xsakit! of course the pushing part is berterabur la for first baby kan.. hehe.. but with his kind help and the friendly yet understandable nurses, alhamdullillah all went well.. anak first, vacuum+induced cost me about RM2900 if im not mistaken.. Anak kedua, konon2nye nk tukar ke gynae perempuan la, so i chose this lady Doc, quite famous gak la.. but after few consultations and gossip2 with the nurse, they still recommend Dr Zamri as they said the “jahitan” is kemas and the most important part is, my hubby didnt feel any difference even after i have 2 babies!.. meaning, mcm mase awal2 kawen dulu laaa… hahaha.. and yg buatkan plus point kt Dr Zamri ni, one of the staff yg baik dengan i tu story that some of the makcik2 or lady yg dh lama kawen pun dtg blk kt Dr Zamri semata2 nk “rapatkan” balik… hmmm.. after the consultation, ape lg, i terus switch back to Dr Zamri laa…!! untuk kebahagiaan hubby gak… hahahaha…Overall cost for 2nd birth, normal, no induced, totally normal is around RM1900..
I really really really hope that my this coming third baby, i can deliver again at DEMC.. tp mcm was2 on the cost coz with that amount, i can buy formulas for my first and 2nd baby… tengok la macam mana…

Hi mom-to-be again,
DEMC is stand for what yea? I’m mother of 2 daughters and now i’m planning to pregnancy with my 3rd. I’ve delivered both of my girl in KBMC Kg Baru Medical Centre.

To All mummies…

I have made a reservation in PPUM for my first deliver… Do u guys have any experience giving birth there? I’m 32 weeks now. For monthly checkup i went to Sunway MC..Pls help !!

hi all…

sonia and mazni thanks a lot….ive asked my dr., she said can continue… so now i still breasfeed my baby but a bit pain laa… hahahaha…. i tried to give her formula… she rejected laa…
neway, thanks guys…

DEMC is so far the best for me, especially Dr Zamri..I was trying to conceive for 9 years, and alhamdulilah, now I am a proud mother to a 6 mth ol baby..

You may try also Dr Idora at Pantai Medical Centre…my wife is due in June and has accompanying her for every visits. Dr Idora seems very delicate and caring towards patients unlike some O&G

any comments on hospital sg buloh? my friend was asking me, since i dont have any experience there, would appreciate if any one of you can give up some ideas or comments .. thanks..

I went to Hospital Ampang (Government) at Pandan Mewah a few days ago for contractions pain. I’m currently 32 weeks pregnant. The doctors were OK, considering but the nurses were so terrible. They seems so annoyed to see patients coming in and they way they asked ” Datang buat ape?”

Ish..ish..ish.. I honestly thought the standard for government service already increased or better, but by judging how they treat you.. I honestly want to cancel my plan delivering at that hospital

again this really depends on your budget and where you live. I delivered my daughter in 2002 in Sunway Medical Centre because this hospital is quite near to where I stay and honestly I didn’t want to go to government hospital to deliver my baby… Anyway, if you have financial constraint, government hospital is good, it’s a lot better than those days. I remember I choose for a 2 persons room but because I delivered my daughter almost end of the year, hospital’s room was super peak, I was asked to stay in the 4 persons room but it was okay, back then all the nurses were imported from india, they were gentle, caring and very nice an friendly. i remember this funny incident, i didn’t have milk after i delivered my daughter (via C-section) and I didn’t have breast milk too I requested the nurse to feed my daughter with formula milk as my daughter was so impatient. one day the nurse ran to me and said “Madam, your daughter cried not enough milk, other baby drink 4 ounces, same goes with her she still cries, I gave her another 2 ounces = 6 ounces all in, she is happy again”….

Hi All!

Im new to KL & expecting my 3rd baby this sept. Im currently staying at Bandar Manjalara. Have checked out Puswari KD, Damansara womens specialist (now at Tropicana MC) and KJMC. So far im planning on going with KJMC with Dr Fatima —> Does anyone have any personal experience with her and her methods?

Im largely suprised at the amount of intervention used giving birth here. My previous 2 babies were born in Australia and they encourage natural birth and breastfeeding as much as possible.

After reading ALL your posts im now nervous they will want to stick needles in me and chop me up! Especially since my EDD is so close to Raya.

Anyhow will keep a look out here and keep reading. If anyone would like to share info with me about near by hospitals or experiences please email me @ brothersista@hotmail.com

Am very happy to share my birth experiences but i dont want to take up too much of your time!!

Take Care

Hi Sonia,

Thanks for the encouragement, i suppose your right, im only reading a researching the minority of birth stories and outcomes (whatever i can find on the net) but im sure there is another side. Im glad that as a Malaysian resident (im assuming) that you can confirm for me that the choice is still available. That is great news to hear.

From everything i read it seemed like most of the medics were pro ‘intervention’.

Having said that if the situation nessecitates then c – sect it is. But if i have options, choice, time and strengrh then i would love another natural birth.

One other question for anyone who can answer – when is it advised to leave to go to the hospital? When you get a show? Contractions? How far apart? How do you manage traffic and peak hours? What if you labour lasts 36hours, would you have to stay in the hospital for all your labouring?

The standard practise in Australia is that they make you stay home until your contractions are close to 1 minute apart or they are extremely unbareable.

Thanks and Take Care

Hi Mazni,

I dont mind the question. Im Australian Citizen (born and raised there) however my parents are mixed indonesian / yemeni and my husband is also raised in Australia however has lebanese background.

Having said that we are pretty ‘Aussie’ in our ways of thinking / doing etc but still hold and understand where our parents came from. We are now living here (been over 1 year) and im expecting in sept.

As for papers – did some research and it is more running around and more $$$ and about healthcare in Australia we have medicare which is a govt network which covers most needs. But for the birth here we will be paying ourselves.

Not so worried about those two issues. Just very concerned how i will be handled and how the actual birth will eventuate.

Take Care

hi new mum,
since u have checked out the new tropicana medical centre, just would like to know whether they have female gynea? do they have delivery packages? and whats the price range for delivery? Anyone else who have this info as well kindly reply..thanks

Hi All!

Sonia – I do my monthly check-ups at a regular Dr Klinik, im very comfortable with the Dr i found. She then advised me to check out Dr Fatima at KJMC which i did and out of the few hospitals ive visited im content with KJMC – provided i don’t read any more horror stories!! My sis-in-law told me to stop searching the net LOL!

Fatti – I went to Damansara’s Womens Specialist Hospital near Damansara uptown and found that they had moved into Tropicana Medical Centre in KD. Wow very impressive entrance – being a new building and all. The hospital felt like a 5 star hotel. I was all for it. Went to the level where they have maternity etc only to find in a “Womens Specialist Centre” they have no FEMALE gynea’s. I was quite suprised. Well that put me off and anyhow from what i know the nurse said delivery starts at RM5000, i don’t know if i was quoted that price as im a foreigner. So that too was a no-no for me.

Take Care

Hi,

Been reading the thread here and noticed that most hospitals mentioned are in dsara subang area. any suggestions for hospitals in KL, ampang area to be more precise? Am thinking of going to Ampang Puteri, anyone has experience there?

hi waterlily,
well as far as i know ampang puteri is a very expensive hospitals in KL….

hi vain, i delivered my daughter in sunway medical centre via c-section with the help of my female gynae, her name is dr noraini. it was in 2002, well i would say she’s good though sometimes she has her mood swings but understandable as she’s women just like us. i still go to her for my yearly check-ups.

Dear mommies-to-be
just to share with you guys my BAD BAD BAD experience at klinik UMRA today. ok, lets start from the beginning..i am 11 months married n Alhamdulillah end of june after having cramp at my lower abdomen n muntah2, doctor kt klinik umra confirmed tht i am pregnant. but the doctor asked us to comeback few days later as she could not see the baby..(ni sama kes dgn our friend Lizazmi la nie)..because of this is our 1st time baby, kite yg x tau ape2 nie, g la wat 2nd medical check up kt umra, but kali ni is doktor ummul yg wat check up. tht time senior nurse (big size body-malay-lady-purple uniform) really scared me off because she is sgt2 garang. eventhough the baby can see but the doctor asked us to come back sbb doktor hanya confirm only 85% baby dlm rahim..kemungkinan luar rahim..then i went there for a 3rd time, met Dr. Sudha..ok lah, doktor was saying that my baby is healthy, we finally can see the baby via vaginal scanning at second consultation room (sbb scanner at 1st consultation room is unclear)..n asked us to come for mdcl chck up again after 4 days..and here’s my nightmare begin; on the 4th visits, which is today (27.7.2009@8.30am) me n my husband g lg klinik UMRA. saya di sambut oleh nurse yg garang tuh (big size body-malay-lady-purple uniform), dan dia leh tanya saya, “datang check up lg?”, fine, then as usual, trainee timbang berat bdn sy n amik bP, n they all talking about nurse yg garang tu..because she loves yelling to trainee, n ckp kuat2 dpn customer, “diorang nie kene jerit, baru kerja jalan>.” OMG, so unprofessional..then doktor panggil i utk check up..the doctor name is Doctor Phia. Unlike Doctor Ummul/Doctor Sudha, doctor Phia is not friendly type of person, n makes us uncomfortable to communicate with her..moreover, during scanning, she was pressing my abdomen , tuhan je la yg tau betapa sakitnya..n said x nampak fetus..when my husband asked her some questions, Doctor phia answer: “Could you please quiet, let me finish doing my work first!”..then i dah x sedap ati…doctor phia again asked me to urine n nk wat vaginal scanning…with glance the doctor asked me, “u are tight up to vagina scanning aren’t u?” i looked at her curiously and confusingly try to understand what it is supposed to mean…masa i nk gi toilet plak, i have to wait because one of the trainee nurse ngah nangis kt dlm toilet, tension dgn nurse senior yg garang tu…hmmmm, then after urine, hati i x sedap, n saw my husband kt luar..my husband said, lets go to another klinik sbb i have no patience with ths doctor..rupanye.., doctor rudely ask my husband to go out while waiting for me, she wanted to take care of another patient. we just walk off from the Klinik UMRA, smbil pegang perut, (sbb ngilu, doktor tu tekan during scanning) n we speed the car to go to deMc..kt DeMC we met with Doctor Zamri who is thrillion better consultation & services than klinik umra..the nurse was helpful as well. Dr. Zamri said our baby is healthy, so far normal..but hv to come back after 2 weeks bcos i hv irregular period before my pregnancy..both of us sgt2 lega with consultation from Dr. Zamri. tQ so much DEMC, keep up your good work..To Klinik UMRA pls take this into consideration, improve your service, monitor your staff and sack all inefficient staff..improve your system, take really good care of your trainee as they are still learning at your place and they have huge potential to be a helpful nurse in future..Dr. Sudha, is one of the best doctor, but she wont be all the time there. To all friends who follow this forum, please3x careful with Klinik UMRA. do your best of not experience the same things as i had this morning.

hi lizazmi, yup, u r so lucky tak continue consultation with them..confirmed, betul la, she’s the one..actually scanner kt 1st consultation room tu, diorang kata ada problem..phobia tul i dengan UMRA..i chose woman gynea sbb ye la, segankan..but u are right man gynea is better..even my husband pun comfortable with Dr. Zamri

moonie, I’ve never been to pusrawi Kota Dsara, but i think over there is ok. Currently I’m on my 35th week and I had my check up at QHC Medical Ctr. We’re planning to have a waterbirth, however depends if the labor room is available for my own use only during my labor day.

Seriously, not to bad mouth but I’ll never recomended UMRA to any one. I’d rather advise them to go and check up in local klinik kerajaan becoz they are way better compare to UMRA which is so called private practise.

I delivered my 1st (2002) & 2nd (2005) child at the Assunta Hospital, PJ. My gyne was Dr Liew Fah Onn. His service, the best I’ve ever had, esp when speaking of his stitching…u can ask my husband. He is very professional, may be that’s why mothers are willing to wait at times, an hour for their monthly checkup which may only t last about 7-10 minutes. The food, great! and their nurses…very caring & friendly (esp in Labour Room). You will even have a chance to visit the labour room in advance.
I’m currently 14 weeks pregnant with my 3rd baby. Though i long to go back to Assunta, but I had to think twice before doing so. Firstly, I have to consider the traffic flow (from Klang to PJ). It takes forever to reach the hospital esp in the morning. During my 1st delivery, i was quite unlucky, the pain started at 7.30 am. When i reached the labour room, i already dilated almost 6. Secondly, my hubby is very busy type & he despises waiting (but insist on accompanying me on every visitation). So we opt for Selangor Medical Centre, under Dr Shahbahiah. i heard she is also an experience gyne. My 1st visit was ok and I’m quite content with her service, but i sure miss dr liew.

Hi ladies..my utmost apologies to read your posts & experiences, i hope you don’t mind…

I’ve been doing some research on which hosp to go for so all the posts has been really helpful..

My wife is 1st time mother to be and we are expecting twins…We had check ups done in KJMC under dr fatima, she’s alright i guess…

We decided to swit

i’d like to read on a comment from someone who has delivered at dr chan’s clinic mentakab. but i couldnt seem to be able to do that. help me .could u e mail me the comments

tq
suzyla

Anyway, i read a lot on Pusrawi KL, anyone knows what’s the rate now?Is it convenient to go there as I live in Puchong?Or should I stick to Columbia/KPMC?

HI mummy2b,i delivered in columbia asia last march
gynae is dr raja ,c-sect 54k++ baby bill about 900..
me is under pmcare,baby is covered,so dunno wether they mark up the price or not.cos hosp/clinic will marked up the charges when u r on medical coverage.
dr raja is a very confident and kind doctor.also follow up wt her since 4 months

hi Pak/Lily,

Thans for the reply. I think Lily meant 5.4k rite? Anyway, 5.4k is still expensive for normal delivery don’t u think. What about kpmc?anyone has any experience? I check out their website and there was a gynae by the name Raja Juhaidah. Is it the same dr as in Columbia? Or is the website not updated?. Cause my fren recomended Dr. Raja Juhaidah to me.

mummy2b,that was for c-section,not normal.normal usually will be 3.2k++
checkup wt her always below 100 cos i din take any supplement,i got if for free from panel clinic

Salam Aidilfitri to all Muslim mommies & daddys…

I’ve just had a scary experience on Raya eve, which turned out to be good. I was having spotting since Thursday morning, but my doc at Pusrawi Kota D’sara gave me Dexa injections to strengthen baby’s lungs and Codiprin to prevent me from having contractions, as I was only 35 1/2 weeks along. On Raya eve at 10.30pm, brown spotting turned into heavy bleeding. We went straight to Pusrawi, but they rejected me on grounds that they didn’t have facilities for premature babies. They refered me to Sg Buloh Hospital instead.

I do admire the facilities and experienced consultants at Sg Buloh Hospital! They attended to me immediately (tho frontoffice registration took awhile), by then it was almost midnite… malam Raya …

Consultant in charge detected an abruptio placenta (uri lekang) and instructed an emergency C-section. I was pushed to Operating theater, which was very new and modern, and my baby girl was out at 2.27am 1st Syawal 20 Sept 2009. Baby was a healthy 2.64kg and doesn’t even need an incubator! She was actually 1 day away from 36 weeks.

Sg Buloh Hospital doesn’t have rude and shouting nurses, or 3rd class facilites. Even 3rd class wards were new and modern…. and only 4 beds to a ward. My C-sect only costs RM200!!! An amazing experience indeed.. what a Raya for me this this year.

Hai…just to share with everybody ….

My first , my scnd , my thrd,….and coming soon also deliver at Hospital bersalin Subang Permai….Normal is about RM899. But not include food la…they just give you drink + biscuit for 2 times.that ok la…

Service is not bad…cheaper than others private hospitals. I like their BIDAN …very nice person like mother …she treat me like her daughter..walaupun I dah beranak 3 kali disini…yang keempat ini pegi sini jugak….wa hah hah .COST+++RM cheaper…

hi ladies,

jz wanna share some info on klinik umra, my sister delivered her 2nd baby via planned c-sect total cost was about rm3.5-4k. according to her, the doctor there is nice, when she delivered, she was the only patient there. hence, 100% attention was given to her. this was in Oct2007.

recently, i asked, klinik umra normal deliver package is rm999. i supposed it is reasonable. whether it is a nice fantastic private hospital/klinik, labour pain remains the same

as for myself, i delivered my 1st son @ SJMC and my bil was rm3.6k (myself + baby). this was in Mac2008.

hope this helps.

hello all,

i’ve safely delievered my third baby at UMRA Shah Alam on July 3rd this year(after deep thinking of which hospital to go, if u have read my previous entry).. of course nothing can compare to Dr. Zamri of DEMC, hmmm…:( still a bit regret of not delivering with him..

ok, my opinion on UMRA, not bad on the doctors actually, well, i had a very quick labor and im not really “have the time” to perhati everything you see.. to me, the dr that on duty at that time is ok, just that the nurses yg xok.. At DEMC, everything will be assist, inclusive of wheel chairing you, hold you, pendek kata, semua berassist and you will never be left alone.. The doc especially Dr Zamri is very gentle and DO understand your feelings, from the first visit until labor. And he will try his best to be on there on the day that you are delievring, of course you need to early mention to him.. On my own experience, he will still advice the same as my first baby, even you already know what he is going to say, you are still waiting for his gentle tone to advice you.

At UMRA, i have to climb to the labor room’s bed myself (in contraction!) without any help.. hmmm… now i wonder where is my husband during that time? yeah.. wer is he? hmm.. then cerita labor xbyk sgt coz i deliver dlm mase 20mn only, alhamdullillah.. ok tthen after labor, i was pushed to the room, with all the maternity blood still bersepah2 kat my peha, and baju.. oh yes, talking about the baju, i delivered with my own baju ok, xtau le diorg xsmpt nk tukar kan i ke, or mmg kene pakai baju sendiri ke.. i assumed that they all xsmpt la due to the quick labor period..

and again in the room, i was left alone, alone in cleaning my self, alone in panjat the bed and alone in calling the nurse to call my baby for breastfeed. My hubby is stilll bz with the document procedure which i think is a bit slow,( I checked out on the same day) if at DEMC, everything will be done for you. Luckily this is my third baby, n i’ve known things that i need to know earlier..

And i’m a bit unsatisfied with the baby’s BCG’s injection coz normally for BCG, the scar will appear clearly in 2 weeks time, but at UMRA, the scar is a bit slow to appear and the scar is not that visible. My worries faded when DEMC’s pediatrician’s Dr Roliza told me that it is ok.. ( ye la, my first two babies had the clear scar of BCG kan)

To me, everywer is approx the same, depends on your luck seriously, some say the gomen is the best, some say private.. we cant condemn one place or people by one visit only right.. personally, if u ask me, DEMC, Dr Zamri is the best. : )

1st baby – Assunta Hosp, PJ – year 2002 – Dr Liew Fah Onn – normal birth + extended recovery period (due to earlier D&C)- 3 bedded room – 3d 2n – RM2700 [monthly follow-up - RM40 (inclusive of scanning + urine test + medication)]

2nd baby – Assunta Hosp, PJ – year 2005 – Dr Liew Fah Onn – normal birth – 3 bedded room – 2d 2n – RM2600 [monthly follow-up - approx RM70] (inclusive of scanning + urine test + medication)]

3rd baby – KPJ Selangor Medical Centre, Shah Alam – year 2009 (currently expecting) – Dr Shahbahiah (monthly follow-up – approx RM130 [scanning + urine test + medication), if with blood test -RM230)

hi mommies

I just want to share my experience at UMRA. I was introduced to Dr. Ummul by a friend during my first pregnancy. At that time I was confused as to which doctor to go to for my maternity check ups. Of course I have made up my mind of not going to govt hosp due to so manyyyyyy……. bad stories no doubt there are good ones but very very rare to hear. Coming back to my story I conceived after waiting for 2 years. During the said pregnancy I experience few complications e.g. few occassions of bleedings during pregnancy and at 1 occassion I suffered severe asthma due to exposure to mosquito spray. I also have continous coughing and flu experience through out pregnancy. With all these problems I came to Dr Ummul and Dr. Rafi and at all times they have guided me and treated me well and finally I safely delivered to a beautiful 3KG baby girl. I opt for C-section because I couldnt stand the pain and they charge me for RM2920 only. The nurses there treated me very well and I never felt being left alone. Now I am pregnant with my 2nd one and still I have my trust with Dr. Ummul and Dr. Rafi. I feel sorry for those who got bad experience with UMRA but my experience with them always a good one.

Hi….
Just want to share my experience delivered at Tawakal Hospital,Jln Pahang(KPJ Hosptl) on April 3 this year…Very2 satisfied with my Dr. Jaafar,He’s really2 good and i have a wonderful experiences there..All the nurses that handled me also are really2 good too….they are very patient and the services are excellent…And thanks to my husband too…He was in the labour room to accompany me from the beginning till the end of the delivery…(long time he stayed there about 24+ hours to support me and he went out for a while to eat and pray in our single room but never leave me alone when i’m in pain and never leave me more than 20 mnts and he’s also see Dr. Jaafar sewing that part too…)..
I request to deliver early 3 weeks from my due date because my last u/sound my baby’s weight estimate is 2.9kg so Dr.Jaafar just check my cervix and said that it’s a risk to deliver early if cervix is not matured yet and usually end up with c-section……But after check all the condition of the cervix and my baby, he said that it’s seems ok to delivered early…So on 2nd April,I was warded(labour room) and induce at 9am..But my cervix seems difficult to dilate …At 12 hours it’s only open at 5cm and the contraction was so strong at night and the nurse adviced me to take the painkiller injection once and after that there were no contraction at all and i can sleep well that night..But at 9.00am the next day, Dr. Jaafar check again and it’s still remains 5cm so he decided to broke my waterbag at 9.30am..And the pain began,right away after he broke my waterbag and i’m cried to the nurses that i’m going to deliver soon and ask for the painkiller injection because it’s hurt so much and i can’t bear it anymore…They are really helpful give me the strength and support and teach me how to use the gas to relieve the pain after the painkiller injection is useless because its still hurt.., and guess what i’m delivered at 10.13 am..So fast n smooth….The jahitan also very kemas n no pain at all…I’m very satisfied with their services..
so its cost me RM3200++,(3 days 2 nite,single room,normal deliver+induce+2 times painkiller injections+gas+)

hi all mommies!!

this is really a lot of “stories” abt Private Hospitals.
i just like to share my story about Gov Hospital.

recently delivered my 2nd baby at Selayang Hospital. did my check-ups at local GP clinic until my 6th month (coz first we thought i wud go Roopi to deliver), but then coz of financial constraint, we changed our mind and decided to go there. later continued all my check-ups at nearby district gov clinic (hate the long queue, but what to do? it’s free) til my overdue date. went back there to get a letter to be admitted.
long story short, nurses, midwives and doctors there were real nice, and gentle. even the trainee doctors are nice! maybe because i smiled at them everytime i see them (even after my delivery in labour room) and even chatted with them. i even chatted with the doctor who was stitching me up (indian lady doc).
i can say i had a pleasant time there (even my husband says it’s much better than our first baby that was born at HUKM – bad experience). staffs all was courteous.

but i can say, different ppl, different experience. it would be a plus if you understand and speak malay/english. coz i’ve seen some poor souls get scolded by the nurse as they dun speak/understand the language at my gov clinic.

stayed there for (all normal, no inducing, no painkiller) 2D1N in 4 bedded air cond room w/ 2 bathrooms attached (considered 2nd class RM 35 p/nite), delivery costs RM 150 (coz i chose 2nd class, if 3rd class much much cheaper) and plus medication etc, total bill is rm260.

i would def recommend Selayang to others that have low budget like me. you may check out their website http://hselayang.moh.gov.my/ (though not much info, but u can email your enquiries to them and they’ll def reply you – i tried and satisfied with their service, coz some, dont even get back to you)

Hi,
I had my delivery in Seremban Specialist Hospital(SSH) last Dec. I stay in KL but mom is in Sban. It was my 1st delivery and being a new mom, I was of course scared (of the labour pain & complications). However, thank God!, it was a super easy process for me! I initially registered at PPUM for monthly check-up and it took me from 10am to 3pm to register,make payment, test urine, waiting for result, queque again to buy medicine etc. I went back to register for monthly check-up & was told to come back in 2 mths time bcoz all appointment was fully-booked! And PPUM only allowed 1 ultrascan throughout yr pregnancy. I was having some mild bleeding then but can only see the gynae in the next appointment in 2mths time! Later, to save time n headaches (of worries), i went to a private G&O clinic in KL . Charged RM90 (med + ultrascan)monthly. On the 8th mth, i went to SPH, my gynae was Dr.Ivan Lee. Each time, i waited 3 hrs for consultation. Charged RM50 (w/o med, c/w scan). I had normal delivery but with induce+epidural+episiotomy+vacuum, stayed 2N1Day(but charged as 1N1D bcoz i checked-in 11pm for inducement, not considered as admission yet), single room c/w tv,sofa..cost me RM3K all in, inclusive of paediatrician fee&med. I checked in 11pm at nite for inducement, doc broke water bag the next 8am and started on epidural. Tho on epidural, yet stil can feel some discomfort, something like period pain during labour. Towards the 2 hours b4 labour, it was getting more painful, just like having a stomach diahrhea upset, but yet bearable. Doc came at 3.15pm had my baby out by 3.30pm thru episiotomy & vacuum. Everything was over within 30 minutes. Dr.Ivan is very skillful in his sewing. I did not feel any pain at all & was talking to him while sewing me. Even after epidural effect was over, there was totally no pain and i was fully recovered by 10 days. I am planning for another baby next year and i know what i’m goin to opt for …induce,epidural,episiotomy &vacuum, that is for sure. I strongly encourage u to opt for epidural and vacuum… make our delivery so much easier. and go for episiotomy bcoz it made our wound heal faster due to an ‘even tear’.
One complaint though, SSP does not promote breastfeeding. They straight away fed baby with formula and did not send the baby to my room for bonding even tho i requested.
Hope the info help.

Can anyone tell me if Dr. Dev Menon ( son of Dato Dr. Menon), is he a good gynae? I am a young mother and I really dunt know if he is, hope someone out there can gimme an idea. Really hoping.

between UMSC and Assunta..which one is better…?I’ve narrowed down to those 2,but really need more info for my final decision..may be latest delivery experience from both hospitals?

hi Ima, my firen just delivered in Assunta…..I iwll try ask her ASAP.

tanya, I was born under Dr Dato menon long long ago….he is a good doctor I heard from my parents…..dunno much about his son though….we”ll if U wanna know more accurate info…..do try & ask the staff nurses la….they know the docs well enough…

Oh yea..forgot to mention dat at the moment, I’m with Dr Suhaimi Isa from Pantai Ampang. He’s very good actually, but now I’m staying in Shah Alam, and UMRA is the nearest to me (in case of emergency). I’m now 35 weeks pregnant with 2nd baby. And also I found out that UMRA is one of the cheapest option. Suddenly feel like trying to deliver in UMRA instead.

i cant concieve for last 2 years. i got fibroids in my uterus wall. can i know where to find a good gynea in JB.i hope there got “focused ultrasound surgery” for treatment. so far i only can find it in Spore, but i afraid my ins cant cover it up.

I am 7 1/2 months pregnant and still do not know where to deliver. I had my monthly medical check up in Subang Women Clinics and check up in QHC this month. But I do not really have confident with QHC. Anyone been to QHC can give me some suggestions.

Hi all,

Just wanted to share my experience…. Damansara Specialist was sooooooo expensive. This year, I delivered my baby naturally, and the cost was over 6k! I had epidural, induce, 3 nights in single room. The expensive part is the doctors… the pediatrician saw my baby 3 times while we were there and each time it cost almost RM500!! So be very very careful before you choose Damansara Specialist.

hi, is anyone can share your experience to deliver in UMMC? how’s the service and is hubby allowed to go into labour room?

I was under Dr. Maziah…DSH….I must say the service was great! But of course la mahal….but what do u expect kan? My baby’s paed is Dato’ Azizi. He’s a nice doctor though the fees are quite expensive. Anyways…I’m ok with DSH….in fact the whole family loves DSH.

Hey, is anyone experienced to normal deliver or c-section at TMC (Tropicana Medical Centre)? How’s the service and charges? Do share with me. Thanks..

Hi, Could anyone tell me pls, do Pusrawi Hospital serve non-muslim? coz as I know it is Pusat rawatan Islam.. Wish to deliver my child there if possible. Thx.

Hi feaedora,

I’m preggy and from jb jugak.
I’m having my first baby now. Due on Aug-2010. I got the same problem oso finding for best maternity place. Finally i stick with Dr Tan from Tan(England) Maternity Specialist in Taman Pelangi. Check-up kat Taman Pelangi but delivery in Kempas Medical Centre. So far service very good.
For HSI i dont really recommend cause my bestie just delivered baby. During the labour pain, HSI suruh dia balik rumah dulu sebab ramai orang and suruh datang balik kalau betul betul sakit. No choice cause hubby dia worry send to HSA. She got cessarean there. Eventhough dia admitted in first class, dia dengan baby was separated. And no one is allowed to accompany you after delivery. You have to take care you and baby(after giving to you) alone until discharge.

i santhia,tq sharing about you.i due at aug 2010 too.sama la.how much cost when u checkup at tmn pelangi?and brp kos bersalin kat kempas specialist hospital?
next week baru i start g checkup at c.s koh.scan n consultancy with doctor just rm30.maybe i delivery at perling specialist Tan.dr. Tan.cost delivery about rm1500 for normal.2day 1 night.but until today i still try find the best maternity for me n baby.

hi, anyone can share your experience to deliver in PPUM?

hai angie2be, i have check with pantai medical centre bangsar….they have package but for certain dr only (around 4 dr) 3 males and 1 female. the package stars from rm2600++ i can’t remember the exact amount.

my gynae is dr idora, the information counter told me that for normal around rm3000-6000

i will delivere my baby at the end of this month an this was my 1st child.. is anyone could lead me to my option between HUKM & Hospital Selayang.. which is good & which is cheap….
tq

Hi everyone, glad i found out this blog. Im 6 months preg. Currently seeing Dr Mani from Ampang Puteri. I did go to Dr Chia (Puchong) but it was just abit far for me. Any experience on rates @ Ampang Puteri?

hi.. greetings everyone..

heard a lot of bad experience in umra clinic here… me too had a terrible experience there… my husband n i swear will never go back to umra ever again! nway.. im doing my check up at sjmc now n due to placenta previa, i am sceduled for a c section in 3 weeks time at 38 weeks… cant wait to c my baby! just wondering though.. does anyone knows how much approximately would it cost? c section at sjmc with dr delaila…

What about Bangsar Women’s specialist clinic in Bangsar?

hi syed fareed…salam…
if u ask me where the best private hosp at jb…of course it will be JOHOR SPECIALIST HOSPT.jln abdul samad.better from pakar putri hosp.i bersalin kata sana masa anak pertama.rm2500 normal(3 days 2night).caesaeraean rm5000 but maybe now haraga da naik skit.Dr. hafetz plg the best n top there.kalau u chexk kat pakar perbidanan msia pun.dr. hafetz antara top 5.facilities kat sana pun lebih lengkap berbanding pakar putri hosp or hosp sultanah aminah.
now,im preggy again but i decided nak cari yg murah skit.so,i prefer nak g kat khor & loh kat nusa bestari,skudai.kos dlm rm1300-rm1800.normal.caesarean rm3000-rm3800.itupun lepas i confident kandunagn kali ni xde mslh pe2.biasalah kalau private clinic if kes berat diaorg xleh handle,facilities x cukup.so,diaorg transfer gomen.ok.hope u satisfied with the info….congratulations for u too…future daddy….

Hi to all sweet mums !

I’ve been reading the comments non-stop from the beginning to the end.
I’m in week 14th now, my first child. we didnt plan to have a child; when i realized i am expecting a child, 6 weeks or so had passed !
I’m a foreigner here and i live in Ampang, kosas.
I am soooooo woooooorried about delivery and choosing a Dr.
My husband is a student here, in UM uni, we cant afford much.
i need some directions.
a Dr in Global clinik (taman Kosas) suggested Dr micheal samy in gleneagles hospital. its expensive i guess.
she also suggested a Dr. Suhaimi in Pantai Indah medical center.
need help . . .
can i use any kind of insurance to reduce the expences?

thaanx

forgot to mention.. my bb was borned via vacuum extraction as I dun hav enough strength to push.. (due to the epidural i guess?)

I’m staying in Penang now. I’m thinking to deliver in Gov. hospital in Penang. Does anybody has experience with this hospital for C-section ? Thanks

no one answers Mansoore !?!

Masoore,
I have replied to your inquiries but it did not get printed. Since you wrote that your hubby is studying in UM, why not deliver in the UM Hospital. Maybe as a student they might give you a discount. Otherwise you can book in the Hospital Bersalin in General Hospital, Kuala Lumpur. If everything is normal, you just need to stay for a day or two. I delivered my one and only living child there ( in the first class ward).

What about acupuncture? I know it’s a bit irrelevant issue, I was just wondering where can I have it for fertility problems?